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Postgame Quotes: Tennessee 45, Iowa 28
January 02, 2015 | Football
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Head Coach Butch Jones
Opening Statement
"First of all, exceptionally proud of everyone in our football organization and our football family. That starts with our players."
"Their preparation, the entire bowl practice sessions, were outstanding. We had focus. Everyone talked about being a young football team, a first of many things. We were focused from the get go when we arrived in Jacksonville. Our football team was focused."
"I put it on the leadership of our football team, starting with Curt to my left, and Josh to the right. They showed me something."
"New Year's Eve, 11:00, they were in bed. We came here for a purpose. The purpose was to win the bowl game. Just very, very proud of them."
"We wanted to start fast. We thought that was critical in this game. We did start fast. I believe we only had three third downs in the entire first half. When we're moving on offense, we're generating first downs on first and second down. Our run efficiency on first down was very good. I thought Josh managed the offense."
"Defensively we did a great job. I thought the fourth and one stop was critical. We continued to maintain momentum. Some big splash plays, getting off the play on third down defensively. We had some missed tackles, but I think for the most part if you look at the bowl trends there's been a lot of missed tackles."
"I thought our players did a good job. I thought our coaches had great game plans moving forward."
"Special teams, the return game really helped us in terms of our coverage team. So, again, just proud of the resiliency of this football team. I still think it's the greatest story in all of college football."
"When you look at the youth of this football team, coupled with the most difficult schedule, an article came out a couple days ago that we have had the most difficult schedule in the history of college football."
"We knew our resiliency and our perseverance would be challenged this year. It's a tribute to everyone in our football family of staying together, focusing on the process, and they were rewarded tonight."
Butch, given the plan that you had when you took the job, are you about where you thought you'd be with this program or further along with this group?
"Well, we still have a long way to go. But I tell you what. I said this is the most challenging year I've ever in coaching, but the most rewarding "We have great character in our football program. Again, it starts with Curt, it starts with Josh. Here is a football team that just finished the most successful academic semester in the history of the University of Tennessee with a 2.77 GPA this past semester. Not only are we starting to win on the field, we're starting to win off the field as well. That's a byproduct of the character that we have. They've shown great competitive grit."
"We still have a long way to go. But we're making progress. We talked about building this program brick by brick. We put another brick into the foundation today. The main thing of anything of setting a culture in place is learning how to win. Not just hoping to win, believing you're going to win and also deserving to win."
"These players, these kids, have been very deserving to win. They've been consistent in their approach all year. Never too high, never too low. We talk about consistency and performance every day in our football program. They've done everything and more so than we've asked of them."
Are you further along?
"I would say we're still under construction."
"Coach, what kind of a lift was it for your team seeing all that orange in the stadium? Describe the scene afterwards when the game was over."
"Well, it started at the Vol Walk. We say we have the best fans in the country. That was a great illustration with this bowl game. It actually started at the hotel. The energy, I tell you, it started back in Knoxville. When we went to Gatlinburg. Our kids could see it."
"It's special to play football at the University of Tennessee. But it also comes with a very high standard and a very high price."
"We filled the stadium in orange. It means everything to our football program."
How do you assess the job that Derek did on Scherff? No sacks, but it seems like he did more than hold his own.
"He did. He's a great, great player. I know Derek accepted the challenge. He's one of those individuals on New Year's Eve, we did the bed check, couldn't find him. But he was sound asleep at 10:00 at night."
"He does anything and everything to try to get an edge. Sacks are hard to come by. But pressuring the quarterback, impacting the quarterback can be just as big as a sack." "Obviously Curt and Derek feed off each other. We also have some push inside. Very, very proud of Derek. He's been injured the last couple games, but he's extremely tough. I've said it, I'll continue to say it, he's mature beyond years. I love him. Love everything about him."
Josh, when you accepted the MVP trophy, you said it was just the start. Expound on that and where this program is heading.
"We also finished. Everything in our program is about finishing. We talked about each team has its own life expectancy. We knew we only had today to live."
"Team 118 is over with. We needed to finish. Very proud of our seniors. They can have a say in building Tennessee football back. These memories tonight will serve them for a lifetime."
Coach, talk about the touchdown, the trick play and the touchdown? Was that in the back of your mind or already planned for the game?
"Well, we always have a catalog or inventory of trick plays that we rep throughout the course of the year. We definitely wanted to run that play. Had to be on a certain hash. Mike did a great job. He kept saying, We get the ball in this left hash, we're going to run it."
"It's one thing to call the play, it's another to execute it. Marlin Lane did a great job. Josh got the ball out there. Vic Wharton did a great job of the stop and go and finished the play."
"Really the unsung hero, they brought a blitz off the end, senior Brendan Downs made that play. Brendan may not show up in the stat sheets with a catch, but he was directly responsible for that touchdown."
"You don't do what we've been able to do this year if you don't have great character. We have a great family environment. Our players love each other. That's the other thing that was great for me to see this bowl trip, is this football team has never been together in December and into January. To see them come together and build that brotherhood, but also the accountability to each other, to get their bodies, their minds ready to play."
"A lot of time in sport nowadays, we live in a SportsCenter society. Everybody sees the highlights, but they do not see the behind the scenes things. They don't see Curt in the gym at 6 a.m. working with Jason McVeigh for two hours. They don't see all the little things that add up to the big things. You don't earn anything by chance."
Coach, was the game plan on offense to attack the edges because of their physicality up front?
"Well, that's basically been a part of our offense. But we did, we wanted to get the ball in the hands of our play makers. Our wide receiver corps has been decimated with injuries. We wanted to make a point to get the ball in the hands of Alton Howard and Von Pearson."
"Sometimes Josh has options on plays, not just pass plays but run plays, where he can hand the ball off or run the play. I thought Josh did a great job of really managing the offense all game long. Some of those sweeps were him reading it and others were pre called."
"We wanted to take advantage, get the ball to the edges, put the ball in the hands of our play makers."
Coach, talk about the impact of all the extra practices on the defensive line in particular
"Well, repetition is the key to everything. So to be able to get some young players like Dimarya Mixon, Michael Sawyers, get these individuals reps. Kendal Vickers, is very critical in moving forward. We have the standard and expectation by the way we're going to play defense at Tennessee."
"Every time you can get those extra reps, it's critical. Also not just on the practice field, but in the strength and conditioning room as well. We've had to play so many freshmen that a lot of times your strength gets set back because we don't call it a maintenance program during the season. We still expect everyone to make great gains."
"But you are on a different regimen, a different routine if you're redshirt as opposed to playing. So there's also a chance for those individuals to go in and really kind of restart the strength and conditioning program as well."
You said you wanted to strike early. What was your impression of Jalen's performance early?
"Jalen is an individual who takes great pride in his performance. He had that look in his eye, as did our entire football team."
"But Jalen really set the temperament of the game for us, getting yards after contact, finishing runs. He just had that look in his eye of, Give me the ball, coach. He earned every yard he got today. Very proud of him."
"He's a young man who is extremely competitive."
Butch, is that the best football you've seen Hurd play this year?
"I will tell you this. Jalen is one of those individuals who has continued to get better and better and better. So I just think it's up to his standard, what we expect from him."
"Now this becomes a big off season. These individuals compete. I walked in the locker room a couple weeks ago, they already have a chart. There's a contest between Ethan Wolf and Jalen Hurd, a number of guys about their off season lifting totals, what they're going to do."
"These kids compete in everything they do. Jalen is one of those individuals whose game continues to elevate week in and week out."
Butch, you kind of made it clear from the beginning you wanted to get to a bowl game and win it. Does the 2015 team have a similar specific goal, wins and losses, or is it less specific?
"We always have one goal and one constant goal in our program when it comes to our performance. It's to be a better football team each and every day."
"Each individual taking accountability for their own self determination. If you improve individually, you improve collectively as a football team."
"We already have the off season mapped out. We just have to continue to get better. We have to develop depth. We have to get stronger. We have to continue to recruit."
"But if you're a prospective student athlete, you want to be part of something special, you come to the University of Tennessee, point blank."
"But we'll cross that bridge when we get there. I just want these kids to enjoy the next couple weeks. I think it's very important. They've been through a grind. They had, what, three days off, three or four days off, to go home, see their families."
"Like I said, the investment they put in this game, the leadership that was shown to make sure the sports science, taking care of your bodies, not being out till 1, 2 in the morning, being responsible to each other."
"We talked about one thing to be a participant in the bowl game, but to go there to win the bowl game. They were focused all week."
"I'm going to put all that, but there's a plan in place. It starts obviously with depth and getting stronger as a football team. But these practices really, really helped us."
"Also the expectation, we've learned how to win. Our players expect to win now every time they step on the football field. To me, a culture in anything that you do, that's the starting process for anything."
Can you describe the emotions when you rolled in of seeing all the fans. Butch, you said when it hits, you'll know it. To the Tennessee fans who think it's hit, has it hit? "When we win, we win together. When we lose, we lose together, we bleed together."
"I'll never forget in the early stages of being here, we lost a game. I got a text message from Peyton Manning that said, I bleed with you. The first person that texted was Peyton Manning. You know, having Eric Berry last night last night in the hotel, Zach Fulton, Ja'Wuan James on our sidelines, it's part of who we are."
"Our fan base has been outstanding. They've been loyal. They've been nothing but tremendous to me, my family, to this football team ever since our arrival. That's what it's all about." "They provided some advantage for us today in terms of even crowd noise and just energy and excitement. They've been that way all year. I love our fans. They should enjoy this because we win together."
Has it hit yet?
"Not yet. We'll have time to self reflect here once we get back. Now we have to go assemble a top three, top four recruiting class, which we will, because we're building and we have something special and great people. These two kids kind of define that."
Could you speak to the impact Bynum made?
"We always talk about when your opportunity presents itself, take advantage of it. Kenny did that tonight. Again, for him, his family, this will be something they'll remember forever. The opportunity to come home and play in front of your hometown in Jacksonville, play in the TaxSlayer Bowl, come away with a victory, hoist that trophy, it's very fitting. Kenny is an individual who has always been prepared."
"He understands the defense. He had his opportunity tonight. He made the most of it."
"Jakob, the same thing, from right here in Jacksonville. These two individuals, when we announced we were going to the TaxSlayer Bowl, you should have seen them. Again, these memories will last a lifetime. Jakob, one year of high school football, he continues to progress. Very proud of those two young men."
SOPHOMORE QUARTERBACK Joshua Dobbs
Josh, when you accepted the MVP trophy, you said it was just the start. Expound on that and where this program is heading.
"Coming into the season, our goal was obviously to make it a bowl game, and when we got there to win it, as we did today."
"This is the start of a foundation for something big going on in Tennessee, momentum we can carry into the off season. Start of something big, a lot of momentum going into next year."
Josh, you said you wanted to strike early. What was your impression of Jalen Hurd's performance early?
"Jalen did a great job of being elusive in space, running hard, running behind his pads. It's always great to have him in the backfield. Not only him, but all the running backs did a great job of moving the ball, behind their pads. It was great to see that production from the running back position."
Josh and Curt, can you describe the emotions when you rolled in of seeing all the fans. Butch, you said when it hits, you'll know it. To the Tennessee fans who think it's hit, has it hit?
"To see our fans, their turnout, was amazing, especially walking into the stadium, seeing all the thousands of fans that were here to support us in Jacksonville, far from Knoxville. It definitely felt like a home game for us. We're very thankful for our great fan support."
JUNIOR LINEBACKER/DEFENSIVE LINEMAN Curt Maggitt
Curt, we talked so many times after games this season about how you needed to continue to stay the course. Was this validation of all the ups and downs you have had?
"Yeah, definitely. What you just said, thought about what happened in the team meeting today. I just spoke to the guys and told them it's been a rollercoaster of a season. Injuries, a lot of adversity came about. I think that brought us a lot closer together. Our youth stepped up and matured a lot."
"I'm grateful for my teammates. I'm just happy the way we played, the way we focused on each play. Came in at halftime said, That's not good enough. Defense, we just gave up a big drive. Need to get back together and play our game."
"I think our team has matured a lot."
Josh and Curt, can you describe the emotions when you rolled in of seeing all the fans. Butch, you said when it hits, you'll know it. To the Tennessee fans who think it's hit, has it hit?
"Yeah, when we pulled up, it was just crazy. I honestly believe we have the best fan base throughout college football and even pros, in my opinion. They travel in a collective group. Like I said, when we pulled up, we actually had to pass a lot of the fans getting in because the line was so long."
"Just to see everyone come out and support, see 80% of the stadium orange and cheering the whole game, standing throughout, I'm grateful for them. We appreciate them dearly."
Curt, could you speak to the impact Bynum made?
"Curt Maggitt: I think Kenny did a great job. I think it's a standard in the linebacker room with coach, Coach Jones, Coach Thig, Coach Jancek. Their standard is very high."
"With Jakob and Kenny, they feed off each other, help each other. There's competition there, but they want what's best for the team. You're not going to see one of them get down if one of them is in."
"Kenny did a great job making the call, setting the fronts, making checks, being vocal. I got a lot of support for him and Jakob."
FRESHMAN RUNNING BACK Jalen Hurd
(On what he said to Marlin Lane after the game)
"I just said `Dude, I love you. It's been crazy. This is our last game together.' This feels like this is the beginning of us but it's the end at the same time. He's been a great mentor towards me this entire season, and I'm really going to miss him."
(On what the win means to the nation)
"It shows that we're here to compete and you better watch out for us because we're coming. We're coming, for real."
(On getting off to a fast start)
"That's what we've been preparing for all month. We were focused on this game the entire time. We were having a great time, but we went out to practice determined to come out and play our butts off, which I think we did."
SENIOR OFFENSIVE LINEMAN Jacob Gilliam
(On if he was affected by playing with the club on his hand)
"South Carolina week last year, I broke my other hand in exactly the same spot and had to play a couple of snaps against Alabama and Missouri with a club, so I kind of knew what I was getting into.
"It wasn't very comfortable, it was a little sweaty, but it didn't affect me. I mean, I couldn't hold with that hand, but besides that I couldn't tell that it hurt me. I just held with the other hand the whole time."
(On the feeling of celebrating after the win)
"Euphoric would be the word that I would use to describe it. That will go down as one of the top three moments of my life, winning that bowl game for Tennessee, for myself and for all of my teammates."
(On if the trophy was heavy in the celebration)
"Not really, not after blocking those guys."
FRESHMAN DEFENSIVE LINEMAN Derek Barnett
(On Tennessee's level of physicality against Iowa)
"I thought we came ready to play and we played physical. We knew Iowa was going to run the ball and they did run the ball, even when they were down. I thought we held on."
(On the emotion on the field following the bowl win)
"It was just a good feeling. You know, we were just happy to win this bowl game and it was a big step that we made, the seniors all say. They paved the way for us, though. Next year, we can make an even bigger step."
(On what he needs to work on individually)
"How much better can I get? I can get a lot better. I'm not as good as I want to be. I struggle with my pass rush still and I need to get stronger, bigger in the weight room and even faster. So, I've got a bunch of stuff to work on and I'm excited to do it."
HEAD COACH KIRK FERENTZ
Opening Statement
"Start by congratulating Tennessee. They played an excellent football game. They were ready right from the start. We certainly couldn't match their tempo in that first quarter. Give them credit. They played a really good football game, I'd venture to say the best they played all year."
"For us it's disappointing. A lot of things that showed up cost us today. Bottom line is that we got a great group of young guys, 16 seniors that just finished up. So I feel bad for every guy in the locker room obviously, especially our seniors."
"It's part of football. We'll get up tomorrow and move forward."
What about the start the first quarter? Were you kind of subdued?
"Yeah, I don't know if they were subdued. We just didn't play in a way that was going to give us a chance to stop them."
"They really did a good job of getting out on the perimeter. We didn't do a good job of forcing the ball back inside. That was a major factor. Early on we didn't get much going."
What was the plan with the quarterbacks? How did you evaluate it during the game? What did you think of them?
"Our plan was to play both of them, as we said consistently the last seven days or whatever it would have been."
"I think they both did some good things. They both had some down plays, too. That's part of it. The way the game got away early, it's tough to evaluate anything in a real great fashion."
"We'll go back and look at it, go from there."
All this talk all week was about quarterbacks, quarterbacks. As it turned out, people should have been concerned about the defensive side of things?
"The way it turned out, for sure. They scored whatever it was, four straight possessions. Even our kicking game didn't help out in that regard. Certainly moving the ball, changing field position, when you get an opportunity."
"You know, it was a team loss. It usually is when you lose. We fell down 35, 28 points right away, you dig quite a hole, especially against a good football team."
Where you are in this program, you've been here for 16 years, going into next year, where does the program stand?
"Well, we're 7 6. This is 2014. I know it's '15 now, it's New Year's. We're 7 6. We've been 7 6 before. We've been 4 8. We've been 11 1, 11 2. That's where we're at. Your record is what you say it is, your record says what you are, according to Bill Parcells. We came up short this year in several games."
On the second possession, there was a change of downs, on fourth down. Did you consider asking for a measurement because they never moved the sticks when they went the other way?
"I was standing right there. It was pretty obvious we didn't make it based on the spot that I saw. It wasn't that close. Eight, ten inches, something like that. But it was obvious from the sideline."
You talked about tomorrow you have to move forward. What does this mean this year, this off season? What do you have to do to have a season that's substantially more satisfying than this?
"You know, what wasn't satisfying, we lost four close games. Clearly today we were behind pretty quickly. We were behind up in Minnesota, as well."
"The other four games, if we want to be successful, we have to win close ballgames. First of all, we have to make them close. We've done a good job of that historically. It's usually a fine line. I'll go back to 2003, 2004, most recently 2009, where we were ranked in the top 10. It's usually a pretty fine line for us. When we win seven or eight games, it's a fine line. The 4 8 not, so much."
"It's a year to year battle, it's always different. Teams change week to week. It's the battle that's in front of you and doing the best you can."
Can you talk a little bit about Canzeri's day today?
"Pretty obvious, that's the best he's performed all season long. Made the statement really hasn't been right pretty much this whole season going back to August. The best he looked is this past month, which is really good. Certainly it was a positive today he ran as well as he did."
"We've got to keep him healthy and keep moving him forward."
"Big positive to mention is Kevonte Martin Manley setting the receiver record. When you talk about what he did there, Scherff winning the Outland Trophy, being a unanimous consensus All American. When you win seven games, those things kind of fall by the wayside a little bit."
"You look at the individuals, we've got a lot of good ones. The 16 seniors that we have, really proud of each and every one of those guys. Just so happens those two did something really significant football wise. Outstanding guys. Tough to say good bye to those guys in the locker room."
Talk about having to defend Joshua Dobbs. Was he even better in person than what he looked like on tape?
"I don't want to speak for Coach Jones, but to me that was the best execution that we saw from their football team all season long. When you win those last four ballgames, it made a significant difference."
"South Carolina game, when they pulled it out down 14, he's right in there with his passing yards, running yards. I'm not saying what he looked like on film, but he certainly played an excellent football game today."
"You read about him, you get to see him at the banquet, very impressive young man, great student. Seems like a very humble young guy."
"Very impressive. He played an excellent football game today."
Are you aware of the temperature outside of the program and how do you react to that?
"Single digits in Iowa. Do you want to be more specific than that? I'm serious."
People calling for you to be fired, emptying the roster, hating everybody, that kind of temperature.
"We had a coach to the west of us that won a lot of football games that got fired. If you're in this profession, that's part of the deal."
"If I'm going to sit around listening to the temperature, reading the temperature on the outside, more what I need to do is take the energy that I can put towards the job and put it on our improvement. That's typically what we've tried to do for 16 years."
"Did that answer the question?"
How difficult was the environment today?
"It was a home game for Tennessee. That happens a lot of times when Big Ten teams come south. They have a really excited fan base. They got a good football team."
"Made it tougher when we play on the road, in tough stadiums. We have to play through that."
"It's really about out there on the field, they just outplayed us in every phase."
You said their execution was better than what you've seen. What specifically was better than what you saw on tape?
"I thought you could see things developing when the ball went backwards. Usually you're going to see some good gadgets or gimmicks in a bowl game. Unfortunately we didn't see it."
"I thought they blocked well, executed well offensively, threw the ball, caught the ball. The one touchdown in the end zone to my right, far across the field, our guy defended pretty well. I don't think he got fooled by it, but just a great throw and a good play by the receiver."
"I wouldn't say a flawless execution, but pretty good from what I could tell."
"They played real well on defense. That first half, they played real well on defense."
You talked about the Nebraska game, the opportunities left on the field, the hangover. Do you feel like the team bounced back from that? Did you sense they were ready to go?
"You would never know it based on what you saw at 3:25. That's about as good a month as we've had since I've been here 16 years. For whatever reason, it did not show today. That was obvious."
"I'm also confident that it's going to show in time. But we improved on a lot of different levels, older guys, younger guys."
"That's all we can worry about is doing our best each and every day, trying to push forward. This team, like I said, they practiced and prepared as well as any team I've been around. We just weren't good enough today."
"I don't believe it's going to go down the drain. That's what I believe and how I live. It's how I look at the world."
WR Kevonte Martin-Manley
On the beginning of the game:
"It was tough to put points on the board, there were a lot of miscues, assignment errors and things like that, but credit Tennessee and they made it tough on us.
On whether or not Tennessee's team speed was a factor:
"They got athletic guys and are dangerous, but we were ready to match that and I don't think that was a factor."
On breaking the Iowa career receptions record today:
"Honestly, it means a lot to me. I wasn't highly recruited; Iowa was my only Big Ten offer. For me to come to Iowa and do something special like that really means a lot and it's something that I will cherish forever."
On playing final game in Iowa uniform:
"The thing that I'll remember is my teammates and coaches - the people I was surrounded with every day. Wins and losses come and go because it's a competitive sport, but at the end of the day the relationships that I will carry on beyond this is what I will cherish the most."
RB Jordan Canzeri
On what he wants from himself next season:
"I want to be able to do more for my team. This year I was hurt a lot and wasn't able to contribute as much as I wanted to. Even though people told me I had a good game today, I'm not thinking about that at all; I'm upset I couldn't finish some of those plays. I could have got it in for a touchdown -- I feel I could have done more for my seniors and more for the team. That is something I will work on in the off-season to be able to finish and contribute more for the team.
On the last game for the senior class:
"It's tough losing all of our seniors. They're a great group of guys; their legacy is going to last longer than today. They made a big impact.
Keys to having big runs today:
"I trusted the offensive line. They created the holes, and the tight ends and receivers were blocking great."
LB Josey Jewell
On Tennessee's team speed:
"We knew they were going to be fast. They run left-and-right outside all the time, but you need to be able to fill holes and pursue the ball better."
On Iowa's missed tackles:
"We weren't wrapping up like usual but credit to them, they broke the tackles."
On moving forward:
"We're losing a lot of guys, but if everyone works hard like they're supposed to we can continue getting better.
RB Mark Weisman
Summation of the game:
"Not where we wanted to be, but proud of the guys, never gave up in any game this year. No one else I would rather go to battle with every day than these guys on this team."
On his health:
"I don't know if anyone as a running back is 100 percent, after the first game of the year, but that's about it. You just have to fight through things; no one is really 100 percent out there."
On fourth and one being the turning point:
"It could have kept the drive alive, you never know; we just weren't executing, defense, offense, special teams, the effort was there, just not the execution. Tough pill to swallow to have you last game be like that."
About bowl preparation:
"It really didn't show, but we really did have a good month of practice. A lot of young guys got better, so that's good for the future of the program."
About the two rushing touchdowns:
"We didn't win the game, so who cares. Great blocking up front, those guys made it pretty easy, always a good thing. But give them (Tennessee), they stopped us most of the day."
What does it mean to be a Hawkeye:
"It means everything. I am thankful for all the opportunities since I have been here. Coach Ferentz and the coaching staff, the opportunities they have given me have been a blessing; it's been a great ride."
Where do you go from here:
"See where my life goes, try to play in the NFL and see if that works out. I am going to go 100 percent towards that and see where it takes me."
DL Carl Davis
What happened early in the game
"Not sure, they did a good job, put up points early, and we did not get points. They ran a hurry up offense, they are coached well, they executed and did a good job today."
On Iowa's tackling:
"You have to wrap up; you have to wrap up to tackle."
OL Brandon Scherff
On today's outcome:
"Obviously, did not turn out the way we wanted it to turnout. I thought we fought hard in the second half, there is a little good taste on how we came out and competed, didn't fold. Wanted to send seniors out right and the young guys into 2015 with a good taste, but they'll have to work through that."
On the start of the game:
"I thought we were zeroed in as well, but they took it to us in the first half. We couldn't come back from that."
On QB rotation:
"I think it gave us a little advantage. C.J. is more of a runner and he is not afraid to sling the ball, so they had to prepare for that as well."
On what's next for him:
"I'm just to relax for now and starting training in Iowa City on Thursday."
On Hawkeye career:
"The memories, I think how far we have come as a team this year, I would not trade a thing. I have loved going hunting and fishing with the seniors, and all the guys. A lot of good memories."